Elegantism (member id) started off the discussion on hostel hotness like this:



Travelng through Europe, [ I stayed in hostels sometimes] 8 guys to a room I always thoughts something hot would go down.

I remember this one time in Italy where the room was tiny and there were 6 guys in it. all ended up sleeping naked on top of the sheets sweating and boning all night long.

Any more exciting stories? 

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Follow up: beachpuppy
I was staying in a hostel in Verona, Italy, in a beautiful converted villa. Some of the showers were communal, shower heads from a common pillar. When you took showers, it meant you were standing around the same pillar, sort of face to face. Got hooked up there taking showers together...
    
Follow up: nakedparis
It happened to me in Budapest; the hostel was an university residence and showers were in a big room; there were little walls between showers but no curtains, so it was easy to peer the guys in the fron shower's line or drying after the shower.
In Stockholm too, I found two hostels with showers not very private; there were curtains, but the undressing room was common, so before and after the shower, we could peer each other.
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My response:It's great to find others who are equally attracted to CMNM (clothed male / naked male) experiences at hostels. Sex is sometimes overrated and that's not just sour grapes because I can and do get a lot of it. But I find the male bonding / friendship/ buddy camaraderie / 'skinship' aspect of relationships with other men (not just sex) can be so much more easily experienced in an environment like a hostel and I find myself craving such experiences because I feel so isolated from knowing men fully. Sure I can fuck around with guys, but it find it hard to make friends or just be buddies with guys without sex at the same time releasing our typically mutual inhibitions toward deeper male friendships.

I have had some great times and also some highly homoerotic stays at several hostels... particularly at one hostel (presently unnamed) - which I have described here on a previous thread posting (now disappeared). I've written about these hostels and sought and given advice about travelling using hostels and the male bonding / male nudity that can happen here and on my blogs. 

Another member, nakedparis (above) has a great idea but I think we need another site/venue to share these since Dudesnude is so limited and the posts eventually scroll up and disappear. Also, there is the issue of privacy - when we start actually naming places and giving out address, then it may get back to the hostel owners (indirectly) that their establishments is targeted by gays/bi-guys seeking sex in their hostels. Some of the hottest places to stay are not always to gay-friendly or diversity oriented. 

In the meantime, I want to hear more from elegantism about his experiences...

 Hey, don't any of you guys blog? One cool idea is to create a Group Blog (using Blogger and Flickr) with multiple account holders (blog members). It's easy to set up (I can do that) and then you can either post entries by going to the Blogger (there can be many blog members or you can blog an entry by sending an email (even with an attached photo).
What do you say? Anybody want to try that... the discussion can still go on here but a 'good / useful' entry could also easily be blogged too. It doesn't mean to have to share id or have common passwords either.


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A few days later...... I added:

I created the CMNM blog and I can add you as a co-author.
Actually, you don't have to actually join blogger to do so - because even without being an (approved) blog author - it is now set up to allow posts to be sent by e-mail. That address is written in the first (trial) post at: 
guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com/


The problem is how to handle explicit sexual photographs (I discuss in that post). Not having any solves that dilemma-- but there is still the matter of what constitutes 'sensual / sexy vs erotic or artistic nude vs blatant sexual behavior or obscenity as defined by the courts. 

It won't be an issue-- of course -- if nobody ever posts or even reads it. 
Look at it first and then tell me what you think about 'managing' the off-site blog..... Guys Into CMNM
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So now it is off and running more to follow later.....
Kelly 

 These next series of posts might be interesting to someone who wants to be see naked by other guys -

 

particularly by str8 or clothed men when you are in 'nude' situations. I don't consider this blatant or in-your-face exhibitionism - for me, it is a sort of sensuous and partly innocent accident flashing or being seen naked (or purpose) where nudity might be expected. I find it even hotter and more sexually stimulating when the guys doing the looking are either supposedly straight or are themselves clothed. It's great when they take notice or when you can tell that they kind of like the experience (or the freedom and license) to get naked them. Many don't need to get permission and quite a few don't care or even notice, but you know never what will happen or how they might react - there are surprising results sometimes - and far from bad ones. 

A few weeks ago a posted question came from somebody on another board: 

I am staying in a budget hotel next week with shower and toilet in the hallway. Stayed there before and tried the basic stuff. Like walking to the shower and up and down the corridors in underwear, and even nude, but was, as far as I know, never seen. 

Does anyone have any creative ideas to show off or to risk being seen in this situation? Perhaps I can post some pics of your fantasy..

Here is how I responded to the guy's request for suggestions:


I had a conference in Honolulu and had planned to stay in a shared hotel room with a str8 buddy. As it turns out, my friend is not going to make it (his wife is coming along), so I made a reservation for a large (10 bed) dorm room in one of these hotels. It sounds like I might had more luck to choose the small dorm room (just 4 beds) since it might be more conducive to a break-out jo sessions. I know I'll be horny as hell and probably not get a wink of sleep - just hearing out guys breathing / turning over / adjust clothes / and the normal sounds of sleeping turns me on like crazy. I don't know what I'll do if one of them is audibly (or visibly) beating off. Still, I'd love to hear more.

I'll be at a hostel next week Feb It's more like budget hotel with shared rooms 4 to 8 people in either co-ed or female only room. However, it's actually rare to have a coed dorm room be that. single women at a hostel rarely stay in a dorm so they are mostly all male guests -- but some regular hotels and inns have larger rooms where guests/strangers who don't know each other share at least a WC/shower but also the bedroom (and lounge/ en suite facilities (kitchen / bathroom etc). 

Here are my suggestions for the hotel you've chosen: 
         
 ( I think you only have a shared bath/toilet . But it really all depends on the actual place and how lucky (popular LOL) you are with the other guests). 
Whether it's a true hostel situation or just a hotel that's cheaply built; changes how you can set up a flash - we're obviously talking about innocent exposure (and kind of CMNM - not a full-on shove -hard cock in their face). If you can do that kind, you probably would NOT be asking for advice. 

So it depends on the rooms (size and number of beds shared if at all) the layout of rooms and hallways, number of floors, how big (or small) the bath /toilet (in Europe (and Japan) it's ,always separate but not in North America.

 Other important things are who are the guests - backpackers - young, free-minded and playful or staid conservative hardline tourist or locals who are just too stingy to stay at more expensive hotels (no offense - I'Ve stayed at many a budget hotel myself - there are many reasons to do so - than just saving money - friendliness, personal attention and a chance to talk to local owners (who are more likely to own and run it themselves) etc,.. 
1) Leave the door unlocked - even if you are NOT 'surprised' once when somebody embarrassingly open it while you're nude..for example they open the door and then close it quickly after getting a glimpse of you - (even though you did see or don't acknowlege having seen them) 

at least , he will know that there is a good possibility of it happening again (you've established a 'predictable' pattern ) so he might just deliberating sneak open the door the next time for a better look or just swing it back wide to give somebody else a look. 














2) Stay at least 3 nights - if you can. Notice other's habits/timing for taking showering (or needing the bathroom) -- then make sure you're there before during or after - in some states of undress. 

3) Sometimes you can time it so well that you can be ready with all your stuff and clutching your towel loosely around your waste.. and then look disappointed if he makes in in before you. if he hesitate just say you won't be long or you're in a rush to an appointment so ask if you can jump inthe shower quickly ahead of him - while he shaves ... 

4) If it's the reverse you get in first but see that he was wanting to shower/use the bath too (he's got his shower gear etc). You can suggest he go first IF you can get started with shaving -- then you can come in too and strip naked and shave until he gets finished with his shower. and comes out to dry. 



5) Use the shared bath/shower on another floor - then you have an excuse to be half-naked (skimpy towel that seems to be falling down by inself ) for a long distance... People want notice unless - for example, you ride up and down on the elevator naked to visit many floors. 

6) Pretend to go to a room (on the same or different floor where you KNOW there is not guest) - you can see the key has not been picked up - there are not footsteps at all from the room directly above yours. 

Then act like you're trying to get into visit that 'empty' room's guest - wearing only your underwear or skimpy towel -- you can knock of the door just as someone opens to come out or when the elevator opens -- knock and whisper a name but drop something -- bending over to pick it up you 'accidentally' loose grip on the towel around your naked loins - IT'S OLD comedy routine but it works because most people are embarrassed for you NOT because of you. If you clumsy -looking enough, sometimes people will even reach out to help you retrieve something - like the towel. and then you can turn to be red-faced with mocked shame... 
The problem with this one is that you can't be sure the person who will view is male or female. 

7) Another way to so pretend to be mistaken about a friend's room number. Most people won't open for a complete stranger but if you are insistent and seem to KNOW a real person who you know is 'inside' - most people will open the door to correct your error - out of kindness - If they don't or won't, and just yell through the door then nothing's been harmed. 

If they do open it without speaking to you first, you can just pretend to be expecting your 'friend' and start to come in through the door - but you'LL SO surprised that the person is NOT who you were expecting that you drop your shower/bath gear and then loose hold of the towel trying to catch the shampoo bottle. It's better if you actually do have your hands full or are holding something else because the 'normal 'reaction would be to turn or to try to cover your genitals. The guy (hopefully you'll get one 50%of the time) will either look up at your face (either before or after he looks right at your cock). If it's noticeable he's not completely disgusted or seems to find it amusing, then smile and apologize and explain that you thought Hans/George was in this room and you needed to give him an urgent message - all the while still not covering up and even almost or dropping something else (unbreakable) to that the guy (guest) has to get down and look up to see from a 'better' angle. Your cock should have swelled a bit now -- so he'll show even more appreciation in his eyes or make it clear that he wants you to leave. 

Hey.. I came up with a lot of bold and perhaps successful ones -- I can't wait to try out some of them myself... 
Final suggestion, next time try a hostel - you're in a room all the time with men - so you can be as naked as much as you can get away with it-- the bath/shower is attached usually so you can freely go back and forth in the nude to your own .. 

Nowadays.. I'm sure that might be one reason that advertize these rooms as MIXED or COED - but - in truth - only a group of women would stay in a mixed group room - usually then the hotel clerk puts that group by itself. Also there are women only group rooms - so it's very like you'll only be put in a room with men. 

What I hate is when I am the ONLY person in the room. Sometimes if the hostel is not busy -they will put a lone 'wolf' - single older guys into one of the doubles/couples rooms (for the same price ) but sometimes I think it's just them taking a precaution - or out of respect for the noise that younger (under 26) supposedly make. Frankly I LIKE the noise they make - that's why I'm staying in the hostel (that and the opportunity to see and be seen naked). Still it is lucky to happen because most people are stranger than they are normal around strangers. LOL 

.. I'll let you know how my trip to one goes next week. 

By the way, there are many chances to do get naked in public bath (baden ) and spas or hot springs. In Japna there are onsen (hot springs resort - where you can also get a day-pass just for the indoor and outdoors hot pools); there are even still pubic baths - sento - where you pay about 4$ to sit naked among or across from other men (sometimes young men and teens - but all ages) and wash and soap your body-- paying special attention to scrubbing your cock and balls. and then soak nude in the hot communal pool (after rinsing). It's a tradition that is rapidly dying out. 

Any ideas or experiences about a flashing at 8 person hostel room (it may be coed)? It's in Honolulu and I don't know the shower set-up -since shower stall or communal (I hope). 
Kelly (sunbuns)
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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!

 

For nearly two years (very infrequently off and on), I've tried to get a younger man (about 23-27) who rides to work on his bicycle through the cemetery to notice my peekaboo flashing (see thru, hole-riddled and mesh clothes). He's not ever really taken the bait and generally turns his head or avert his eyes - if we're too close - so that he can't be 'accused' of looking. I am pretty positive he knows what I'm up to ... a few times a month I make a sudden appearance on his route - sometimes with my zipper down or sometimes with a pair of mesh shorts with my shirt tucked in just for him to see my pale cock wiggle from side-to-side as walk by him.

If he were so disgusted or fearful (of being stalked), he could easily find another path to his work (I think he's working at a small commercial airport not too far away) because I meet him usually (once a week or so) around 7:00am and he returns about home the same route in mid-afternoon. Wednesday are his day off so he works on Saturdays as well.

Things have gotten more daring on my part this month. A couple of times recently I've gotten more bold.. like this morning. From the road, he would see me something like this (photo attached). I realize it's very tame by comparison (to other's extreme flashing - but HEY!.. we are NOT all made/built the same, right?)

I'm
standing in a pathway between grave plots about 7 meters from the main road that runs through the cemetery. It's a straight wide (private) road with no thru vehicle traffic - so I only have to be careful about pedestrians and bicyclists going east/west.
 {Pic at right is one of this blog's author.}
Before taking up my position just off the road, I scout out down the road to see if he's approaching and then take up my position (like the photo). I'm turned a bit to the left but I can him clearly when I look to my right. I've done this before but never pulled my pants all the way down until recently. Earlier I was taking a piss (or pretending too).

So twice recently.. when I knew nobody else was approaching either direction .. I've pulled down my pants and starting jerking my cock (not hard in this 'staged' recreation of the scene).
There should be no doubt that he can see me in this peripheral vision but he's TOO damned chicken or just not going to give me the pleasure knowing he's looking. He's smart - not a smart-alec and he's not looking for a confrontation but he's not looking to see 'dick' if he can help it either.

I know it's pretty stupid (fruitless is a better word LOL) -maybe useless to try to keep flashing this guy (if you can call it that). But the challenge just seems to be increasing my feelings of urgency. This time after he went by without so much as a smile or frown/scowl or side glance... I had to go deeper off the main road and beat off until I came.

Is this going to lead to me trying to go to greater lengths to get the guy to look?

I think the attraction is that I sort of 'feel' like I know him -- ridiculous idea (I know) but at least we recognize each other.  Sometimes he almost can't help it if I suddenly meet him coming around a corner but it's risky to be 'showing' more than just wearing see-thru mesh - because mothers with school children, old ladies and men heading to their office job are equally likely to suddenly appear around the same corners.

I know he does look my way at times .. but it's only when I'm 20-50 meters away. There is a large plaza (paved area) along the main road, where we sometimes cross paths at a much great distance. It is at times like that when I have my zipper down and my cock partly exposed. I notice then that he 'seems' to take a brief look .. but if I'm too close.. he averts his eyes or even turns his head.

What do you think? It's not much of a flashing experience - but it's the most 'real' flashing I've ever done (not counting nude beaches and CMNM with male strangers in hostels/campsites). He's got to know that I'm 'beating off' for him, but he's closed to the idea.

Any suggestions?
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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!

 

I haven't posted in a while -although I have been busy online and off line too. I guess the urge to blog comes and goes. Also, I find that I split my life into segments which don't always overlap -- such as my activities as a gay male don't always seem to fit with some of my other interests (at least, I am not at the point where I can easily mix together blog entries about new pleasures in buttfucking and my latest recipes and travel tips. 

So when somebody ONLY reads this blog, they will certainly get skewed version of what I am as a person versus what I do as an active gay man (the mostly secret sexual side of my nature and activities). 

I do spend a lot of time online and -- while some of it is blogging - a lot of it is absorbing other people's work (and responses/writings/posting). Still a good bit more is consuming erotic images and video. Over the last few weeks, I have discovered (or I should say re-discovered and taken time to explore) various new sites - -many of which are directly connected to homoeroticism. 

Travel Ssssssssssex

Over the weeks from March 2 - April 5, I had a lot of fun travelling so I'd like to fill you in by detailing my adventures - some of them sexual (of course).

I spent a week on the Big Island in late February and got to swim with dolphins, see whales and sea turtles, did some diving and camping.
My next longer journey involved trips from Honolulu, Southern California, New York City, Tampa (Florida), Barcelona and Gran Canaria.

So instead of trying to write it all here, I will just link to entries from some of my other blogs: (Note: Not all of them are finished yet -- so I'll be updating them over the next few days (hopefully).

• Travels with Sunbuns: February Big Island trip
• Barcelona as a gay travel destination
• Southern France - where to go for the gay tourist
• Gay Travel to Eastern Europe and Gran Canaria
• Traveling to Tokyo (May 2006)

    
New level of pleasure achieved

• Sex on the beach - I got to cruise on several gay beaches and seaside cruising spots. Diamond Head beach was hot the very afternoon I arrived back there from a short trip. I met a horny bi guy who liked to show me his str8 porn mag -- I presume to help him get himself (and me too -
  
  because he was talking dirty about fucking pussy). He then proceeded to wrap his lips around my engorged cock -- we were nestled away high above the beach but still there were other guys cruising who were trying to get a look at what we were doing.
  
  Later on another guy climbed up to meet me among the trees, he wanted to press his cock into the crack of my ass, but didn't want to insert. It was hot getting butt-rubbed - and just made me want the real thing that much more.

Fucked at gay sauna 

One couple of the best anal fucks I have had in a long time was at Club 2200 on University Blvd in San Diego on March 7th.

It was a weekday night but the place was pretty hot. I finally met up with a cute Afro-American guy who felt me up from behind while I was leaning over the back of a couch in the lounge area. He asked if I wanted to play so we went behind the seating in the video backroom, where he covered his 10 inch long, beautiful cock with a rubber and then fucked me crazy. It turned out that he was trying to give me an anal orgasm. He would pull back until the tip of his long hard meat was about to disengage from my anal lips and then we would ram it back in deep. He kept up a rapid plunging rhythm so that I finally screamed in delirium and came without touching my cock. 

 
Funny, but just a few hours later, after a restful snooze, I got up and found a hot guy in the same room who wanted his ass plowed long and hard. So I was very happy to oblige. We fucked there in the video room for a long while, then he invited me back to his cubicle where we engaged in slow sweet butt-wracking sex with my ever-hard cock for hours.

I have not been so pleasured -- both ways during such a short period of time in a long while. It was hot! Anal orgasm in Maspalomas dunes - Apart from my scuba diving on two of the days at Playa del Ingles (actually we dive at El Cabron Bay nature preserve), I spent several days on the dunes at Maspalomas -- nude sunbathing and cruising for sex. 

One the most interesting times was after I had been kind of mentally 'edging' for 4-5 hours -- seeing guys nude and a lot of sucking/fucking going on the nooks and crannies around the dunes and in the shady brush lined areas. There was a guy who was interested in my ass while I seated on the huge leaning branch of a tree. My butt was spread out over the back edge and he came up and started to massage my sphincter.

Other guys came up around him and watched. He was not going to insert his dick, but instead, he put his fingers into my butthole and expertly applied a massage to my prostate gland. 

It was kinky sitting there with my cock bloated -- fully erect and having my asshole rammed with a hot digit. He knew exactly what to do to get me to explode and the lust in the others mens' eyes just made me want to put on a great show. I came without touching my dick -- something that had not happened for several weeks (when I was in San Diego).

 

 I realized that I have reached a new level of sexual stimulation -- the anal orgasm.

On a morning walk in the cemetery a few days back, I pulled off my pants - always wear a loose fitting cargo pants and freeball. So it's easy to quickly do a bit of 'stealth flashing' -- I call it 'stealth' since I don't believe anybody is watching. It's just the fact that they might or could at any moment -- there are cars intermittently passing along a lane about 50 m behind me. I got excited and just secs later starting jerking off until I cum. 

I guess you notice I'm not showing face. I have some comments (rather a long winded explanation) below:

Showing 'face' when your flashing or 'innocently' exposing yourself to strangers is actually less risky than doing so on the Internet. I mean there are only a limited number of people who actually see you and many don't really 'see' you at all. Even if they do, they don't want to act on it (confront your personally or even call the police and press charges) and then they don't have 'proof' - just their word against your. s 

I was once arrested for lewd conduct charges (a felony in Mass). It happened while on vacation near Provincetown in 2005. It was a police who saw me -- although I was just 'pissing,' which I was, he claimed I was trying to flash him (I was wearing a skimpy see-thru pair of shorts but he could not have seen that from the distance he was when he first noticed me). I was not convicted -- of course --the case was dismissed because it was a case of false arrest/police brutality / insufficient evidence / unlawful seizure of evidence (my camera), I obtain the services of a local lawyer who had experience with theis particular police department. It seems they often made this kinds of arrest in order to discourage 'perverts' from coming into their community - -not Provincetown township but another one further down (south) the Cape. 

But the whole trauma of the experience taught me some valuable lessons. For one, it made me realize how vindictive and self-righteous some people are -- including well-meaning and hardworking police officers -- most of whom I have a great deal of respect for the dedication. 
But flashing on the net or letting your face get shown may have some risks that you cannot control or may not even realize until years later. 

Thanks, Toras, for being encouraging without be condescending. I have lived in communities where a Causasian male (which I am ) is a rare minority , so it means I would have no trouble being picked out of a police line-up. Toronto has a very multi-ethnic community - there are about 800,000 people of Chinese origin alone live in great Toronto -- at least you can 'pass' for a local. I can't where I am living now - that's why I guess I went overboard last summer and was a little bit too careless while vacationing on Cape Cod. I thought I blended in as to be unrecognizable. 

The other interesting phenomena and also could make flashing (exposing one's genitals and face) on the Internet somewhat riskier for people who define themselves as flashers, exhibitionists and exposers is 

1) the tendency for the Christian right to categorize them as sex offenders -- the same as child rapists and baby killers, and 

2) the new Internet technologies for tagging pics, passing data including pics and tags through RSS feeds even further around the globe, and geotagging - ties/links an Internet object (user, picture, file) to a specific geographic spot. 
I know this is off-topic , but it was my topic (Walking the Dog) in the first place so I doubt the moderator's will mind. I usually do a lot of thinking while I am 'walking the dog' which is both a methaphor for 'wagging the wiener', freeballing in the open air, airing out the family jewels. But it also is REALLLY what I am doing -- taking my pet dog for his daily walks. I also think about flashing both as my hobby and also about it repercussions and consequences too - while I'm enjoying the solitude and occasional chance to peek-flash some guy (see separate, earlier posts for the narratives) 

Back to the thesis -- 

We know there is tracking of what you purchase and even what you're interested in (sites that you have visited leave cookies that search engines can pick up and then display ads that are related to the types of sites (products) you've been visiting. Google does that big time. 
So it's not too big of a stretch to think that pics (or other data files or media objects), which you download or that you place on your website or public / private profile on some social network, or that you even look at briefly online, might leave discernible and followable traces. 

I've got profiles all over the net and many pics with and without my face -- both under my real name and my various alias (sunbuns is not my 9-5 working world identity). Someday somebody is going to find a way (my conspiracy instinct says they already have) to collect these traces (tags) or at least connect them like dots. So they'll start selling the information (clandestinely of course) for ostensibly purposes of security and anti-criminal protection but the personal id info will most certainly also be used to defame and try to ruin the reputations of people (basically good upstanding citizens -- like me and you) for political gain, religious cleansing, or profit from blackmail or pay-offs. 

Sorry to take a sinister lapse into the dark side of the net... 


Hey, it's my real birthday today. I'm 39 - yep! Well, at least 'sunbuns' thinks he is or at least won't admit to being any older than that - and he usually says he's younger). I remember a comment your once made in another posting -- most of the people on this site (who are interesting in or doing flashing) are in the 40s and 50s. 

In honor of the fact that I'm chicken to show my face here's another pic -- not only faceless but too headless from one my walking-the-dog hikes into the local cemetery. If I get any more 'invisible' - I might as well be dickless. Sometimes I think it will be good to be reborn as a dickless being (a female?) in my next life. 
If I am not recognizable, may be my dog will be.  

On the public profiles, I was referring to in my post above is located at Dlist -- a gay social networking site (I feel like a 'old' man among the 'twinkish' - hipster GQ types plastered all over the home page. But what the hell -- I like college age dudes - and sometimes they like a guy who's more mature and obviously well-endowed (I don't mean 'big' dicked) - financially well established (stable income sufficient to live well, not 'rich' but all things are comparative).


If you visit it, you can see a slide show of guys showing off in public. 
Which means that ANYONE can see the photo and the profile - if someone is savvy enough they can probably find out my IP address from the uploaded pics or code. So -- it's not all just conspiracy. Someday I'll be knowledgeable enough to prove my thesis by showing you exactly how it might work. 

I collect such pics and thousands of others. I am turned on more by 'real' photos of real guys getting nude and being naked, male and happy about it, than the slick, hard-glossed superstuds and huge meaty cocks of the porno models. 

I have them in Flickr and a few thousand saves in Yahoo Photos - only friends can see them - unlike Dlist and GW - my profiles and pics are password protected. I realize it is not much security (protecting one's identity from theft or blackmailing/blackballing) but usually like-minded people of the same persuasion join a gay or porno site. That's not the case with these two new entries, GW and Dlist. Even Yahoo 360, MySpace and Tribe.net don't allow just anyone to see a profile (or at least the parts you don't want made public).